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From: John Curran via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 23:55:48 +0000
Chris -
There have not been other incidents – we publish incident reports for all customer-impacting events (even if
just a single customer.)
Thanks,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
On Dec 15, 2025, at 6:50 PM, Chris Woodfield via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote: If this is the first and only incident of a resource being inadvertently reassigned to a different organization, then I’d estimate that ARIN has an error rate that is much, *much* lower than, say, the error rate of DNS registrars handling domain transfers. The key qualifier is the “if” - this could be the only time this has happened, or just the first incident that has public awareness (at least in as long as I’ve been paying attention). While it’s entirely reasonable that ARIN would not report other incidents contemporaneously due to customer privacy concerns, I don’t think it’s inappropriate to ask if there have been other incidents like this, and if so, how many and how recently. If nothing else, I expect that this will be a topic of the next Policy Experience Report, either from the stage or from the mics. Probably both. -ChrisOn Dec 15, 2025, at 15:08, Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote: ARIN hasn’t exhibited a pattern of this error. They haven’t exhibited a pattern of similar errors. Every single one of us has, at some point made a decision to defer dealing with something because of resourcing, timing, frequency of potential mistake, etc. Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit. There’s no reason to get all verklempt over this. On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 16:06 David Conrad via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:Hank, On Dec 14, 2025, at 9:48 PM, Hank Nussbacher via NANOG < nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:A masterclass in owning a mistake and handling it properly.“Owning”? Sure. "Handling it properly"? Time will tell. The issue here is that RIRs were created to have precisely one job, namely to ensure the allocation of unique resources. Everything else is secondary. And ARIN failed at that one job. It is, of course, true that mistakes (to put it politely) happen. People are fallible, bugs exist, systems crash, etc. What matters in the context of “core mission" is how much the organization's policies, processes, and priorities played in those mistakes. It appears updating systems to address“known weaknesses" was not prioritized, that internal processes were apparently not followed, and that policies were not in place to ensure ARIN could not fail in its core mission. Outside of the impact to the direct customers and a potential degradation in trust in ARIN’s service, there is a larger context: at a time when the RIR system as a whole is facing increased scrutiny due to governance concerns, changes in its operational role due to (and failures in) RPKI, threats from various actors, etc., this isn’t a good look. ARIN has made a number of promises and presumably over time, there will be information about how it is living up to those promises. Hopefully, that information will show ARIN is "handling it properly”. Regards, -drc _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog () lists nanog org/message/BP4LWM6SGTFEYHZRSVMFZR4QVWFAWAHD/_______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog () lists nanog org/message/T6BYEYDW2F6CVYBENOEFM26DPVLV4B5F/_______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog () lists nanog org/message/XV5MLLVV6ZRD7MDAHF5CSTMSGLKRJDHD/
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Current thread:
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation, (continued)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation Andrew Kirch via NANOG (Dec 12)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation Jon Lewis via NANOG (Dec 14)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation John Sweeting via NANOG (Dec 14)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation Brian Russo via NANOG (Dec 14)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation John Curran via NANOG (Dec 14)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation John Curran via NANOG (Dec 14)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation Hank Nussbacher via NANOG (Dec 14)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation David Conrad via NANOG (Dec 15)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation Tom Beecher via NANOG (Dec 15)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation Chris Woodfield via NANOG (Dec 15)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation John Curran via NANOG (Dec 15)
- Re: Accidental ARIN Reallocation Hank Nussbacher via NANOG (Dec 15)
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